Rhetorical (USA) Horse

Country

United States

Foal Date

03-Mar-21

Colour

dark bay or brown

Sire

Not This Time

Dam

Sheet Humor

Prize Money

4556331

Trainer

William Walden

Owners

Barber, Gary, Cheyenne Stable, Llc And Wachtel Stable

About

Rhetorical is a five-year-old dk b/br gelding bred in the United States, by Not This Time out of Sheet Humor. He is in the care of William Walden and races for Barber, Gary, Cheyenne Stable and others. Over twelve career starts he has captured seven victories and placed third two times, accumulating $4,556,331 in earnings. His most recent outing came at Keeneland on 4 October 2026, where he finished 1st out of a field of 8.

Race Record

Event Summary Runner Stats Rank
Keeneland 01-Nov-26 1609m FIRM R9 Race 9 - FanDuel Breeders' Cup Mile Presented By PDJF - Grade 1, SP: 10.00 Jose Ortiz 6 (13)
Keeneland 04-Oct-26 1609m FIRM R10 Coolmore Turf Mile Stakes (Stakes) $1,134,394 (of $1,800,625) Barrier 3, Winning Time: 01:36.350, SP: 3.50 set a soft pace around the first turn and down the backstretch, got collared by an outer bidder turning for home, repelled that challenge and spurted clear entering the final furlong then held sway with good energy. 1st Rhetorical ( I O Jr 126 ) 2nd Lake Forest ( C Fallon 126 ) 2.25L 3rd Title Role ( J R Velazquez 122 ) 2.50L See full results I O Jr 57.2kg 1 (8)
Saratoga 09-Aug-26 1609m FIRM R10 Fourstardave Stakes (Stakes) $74,289 (of $1,061,271) Barrier 1, Winning Time: 01:35.070, SP: 5.00 1st Deterministic ( K Carmouche 126 ) 2nd Mi Bago ( L Saez 124 ) 1.50L 3rd Zulu Kingdom ( F Prat 126 ) 0.75L 4th Rhetorical ( M Franco 126 ) 2.35L See full results M Franco 57.2kg 2.35L 4 (6)
Saratoga 07-Jun-26 1911m R12 Resorts World Casino Manhattan Stakes (Stakes) $99,263 (of $1,418,038) Barrier 7, Winning Time: 01:50.500, SP: 3.75 1st Deterministic ( K Carmouche 124 ) 2nd Test Score ( M Franco 124 ) 0.50L 3rd One Stripe ( G Lerena 124 ) 0.50L 4th Rhetorical ( I O Jr 124 ) 1.25L See full results I O Jr 56.2kg 1.25L 4 (9)
Churchill Downs 03-May-26 1811m FIRM R11 Old Forester Bourbon Turf Classic Stakes (Stakes) $1,312,135 (of $2,082,755) Barrier 6, Winning Time: 01:45.960, SP: 3.50 dictated terms along thei nside, kicked clear in upper stretch then held sway well. 1st Rhetorical ( I O Jr 123 ) 2nd Make Me King ( J Ortiz 123 ) 3.25L 3rd Corruption ( J Velazquez 123 ) 3.50L See full results I O Jr 55.8kg 1 (9)
Keeneland 11-Apr-26 1609m R9 Maker's Mark Mile Stakes (Stakes) $91,919 (of $919,191) Barrier 1, Winning Time: 01:34.900, SP: 4.00 got fractious in the starting gate, stalked along the inside forged place while changing to his right lead nearing the furlong grounds, shifted out to the three path in pursuit shortly after, ran on but got outkicked for place by an inner rival. 1st Zulu Kingdom ( F Prat 123 ) 2nd One Stripe ( J Velazquez 123 ) 0.75L 3rd Rhetorical ( I O Jr 123 ) 1.25L See full results I O Jr 55.8kg 1.25L 3 (8)
Del Mar 01-Nov-25 1609m FIRM Flat, SP: 11/2 Irad Ortiz Jr 57.2kg 4 (13)
Keeneland 04-Oct-25 1609m FIRM Flat, SP: 12/1 Irad Ortiz Jr 57.2kg 1 (11)
Saratoga 24-Aug-25 1710m FIRM Flat, SP: 3/10 Irad Ortiz Jr 55.3kg 1 (6)
Saratoga 19-Jul-25 1710m FIRM Flat, SP: 4/5 Manuel Franco 56.7kg 1 (6)
Belmont At The Big A 18-May-25 1710m FIRM Flat, SP: 1/2 Irad Ortiz Jr 56.2kg 1 (11)
Saratoga 24-Aug-24 1710m FIRM Flat, SP: 8/13 Irad Ortiz Jr 54.4kg 3 (11)
Saratoga 26-Jul-24 1609m Flat, SP: 3/1 Irad Ortiz Jr 53.5kg 1 (10)